BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
SEMINOLE COUNTY, FLORIDA
October 9, 2018
The following is a non-verbatim transcript
of the BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
MEETING OF SEMINOLE COUNTY, FLORIDA, held at 9:30 a.m., on Tuesday, October
9, 2018, in Room 1028 of the SEMINOLE
COUNTY SERVICES BUILDING at SANFORD,
FLORIDA, the usual place of meeting of said Board.
Present:
Chairman
John Horan (District 2)
Vice
Chairman Lee Constantine (District 3)
Commissioner
Robert Dallari (District 1)
Commissioner Brenda Carey (District 5)
Clerk
of Court & Comptroller Grant Maloy
County
Manager Nicole Guillet
Deputy County
Attorney Lynn Porter-Carlton
Deputy Clerk Terri Porter
Pastor Greg Rice, New Covenant Assembly of
God, Casselberry, gave the Invocation.
Commissioner Carey led the Pledge of Allegiance.
BUSINESS SPOTLIGHT
The
Business Spotlight video for Avocet was presented.
Commissioner
Constantine mentioned he was excited to see that Via Airlines of Maitland is
now going to fly to Tallahassee and back out of the Sanford Airport starting in
December.
AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS
Agenda Item #1 – 2018-0994
Motion by Commissioner Constantine, seconded by Commissioner Carey, to
adopt a Proclamation recognizing Corporal Walter (Wally) Nelson, as the October
2018 Veteran of the Month.
Districts 1, 2, 3 and 5 voted AYE.
Corporal Wally Nelson addressed the Board
to express his appreciation.
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Agenda Item #2 – 2018-1005
Motion by
Commissioner Constantine, seconded by Commissioner Carey, to adopt a Proclamation declaring October 1
through 13, 2018, as Fire Prevention Week in Seminole County.
Districts 1, 2, 3 and 5 voted AYE.
Chief Mark Oakes, Fire Chief, addressed the Board to express his
appreciation. He noted they have a great
relationship with the American Red Cross providing free smoke detectors. He introduced José Bueno and Kathy Hunt with
the American Red Cross. Mr. Bueno addressed
the Board and stated that nationally, this program has documented that 471
lives have been saved. These are people
that came forward and advised they were saved because an alarm had been
installed in their home. Commissioner
Carey talked about going out into a community on a Saturday morning to knock on
doors and ask people if they can install smoke detectors. Also, many homes have old smoke alarms or the
batteries have not been replaced. She
thanked the American Red Cross for working with their Fire Department and stated
it is a great project and a great partnership.
Commissioner Dallari expressed there are many volunteers that get
involved, and when they are in the homes for the installations, they also look
at other issues that come to light that the American Red Cross is involved
in. He thanked them for their commitment
to Central Florida and all of the United States. A video was then shown about Fire Prevention
Week.
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Agenda
Item #3 – 2018-1006
Motion by
Commissioner Dallari, seconded by Commissioner Carey, to adopt a Proclamation declaring October 7
through 13, 2018, as National 4-H Week in Seminole County.
Districts 1, 2, 3 and 5 voted AYE.
Karen Henry, Youth Development Agent, addressed the Board to
express her appreciation. Commissioner
Dallari announced that Barbara Hughes will be retiring at the first of the year
and he wished her well. Ms. Hughes
addressed the Board to thank the Commission.
She stated they have been a great support for 4-H, for their youth
development, and the 4-H Tropicana Public Speaking Program.
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Agenda
Item #3A – 2018-1026
Motion by
Commissioner Carey, seconded by Commissioner Dallari, to adopt a Proclamation
declaring October 17 as Holler-Classic Family of Dealerships Day in Seminole
County.
Districts 1, 2, 3, and 5 voted AYE.
Commissioner
Carey advised that she will present the Proclamation to the Holler Family on
October 17 at their corporate headquarters during their 80th
anniversary celebration.
Dr.
Phillips Center for the Performing Arts
Agenda
Item #4 – 2018-1004
Kathy
Ramsberger, President of the Dr. Phillips Center for the Performing Arts,
addressed the Board and stated she believes the first time she presented to the
Commission was in 2004. Construction was
started in 2011 and prior to that, she came and gave updates of what the
project dreamt to be. Now it is 2018 and
they opened the first phase of the project in 2014. Back in the early years, the project was
supposed to be built all at one time.
They ended up having to do it in phases because the economy impacted the
Tourist Development Tax in Orange County.
So they opened two-thirds of the building and now are in the process of
completing the project. She explained
she wanted to give this update to show what the impact of the Dr. Phillips
Center is in Central Florida and then how Seminole County has been involved
with the project. Ms. Ramsberger
displayed and reviewed her PowerPoint presentation (received and filed).
Commissioner
Carey noted the presentation package says that out of their 31 major donors
from Seminole County, they have donated $2.28 million, so there is obviously
great support coming from Seminole County not just in ticket sales and
membership but also through the philanthropic process. She said they are fortunate to have a
beautiful performing arts center in the community.
Commissioner
Dallari questioned whether they have reached out to the Seminole Arts
Council. Ms. Ramsberger responded she
needs to touch base to see if they have.
When they were in the development they did; they did a lot of listening
and engaging before they actually opened.
Commissioner Dallari added that Wayne Densch Performing Arts Center in
Sanford is another big organization. Ms.
Ramsberger advised the groups they are working with the most are the groups
that perform within the Center.
Commissioner
Dallari asked how they could help get the word out. Ms. Ramsberger stated there are only 35 of
these in the world and they can make a meaningful difference in their
communities. They can do that by having
the annual support and the engagement, especially for the outreach to any type
of student. They have 3-month-olds that
are participating in programs that they fund and they have a 104-year-old and
many seniors that participate in these programs. She opined the school programs are
important. They actually started and
launched something called “Sixth and Jazz.”
For every sixth-grader in Orange County and Osceola County, they do a
curriculum in the school for them and they actually come to the Arts Center to
experience the importance and relevance of jazz. This particular one had an impact to the
Civil Rights Movement and how music really engaged in their culture. So their goal is to get every sixth-grader in
Seminole County to the Dr. Phillips Center, and then beyond that so as they
raise money, the more they can get engaged.
She mentioned to let her know if they know of any companies that would
like to help support them, and stated they also have corporate citizenship
programs.
Commissioner
Dallari wondered how Osceola County is involved and asked whether Seminole
should be doing the same. Ms. Ramsberger
replied there is a cost to the program but through their philanthropy, they are
funding most of it. The counties are
providing the busing and that is the number one thing they need. It costs about $100,000 to $150,000 for the
program itself, so as they are raising money, they are stepping into the
outreach program. She expressed they
need to meet again and just get it going.
Chairman
Horan thanked Ms. Ramsberger and congratulated her on their success. He noted he is a season ticket holder of the
Broadway series and it is a wonderful hospitality experience anytime you go to
the Dr. Phillips Center. He talked about
the Celery Soup group performing there and what a thrill it was for them to
perform in a venue of that high quality.
Ms. Ramsberger stated they will invite them to come and see the Disney
musicals so they can see Forest Lake School perform, and they will also invite
them to the Applause Awards. She noted
there are very few of these centers that will ever be built again; they are
very difficult to build. And once they
are built, they are there for hundreds of years. She said it is fascinating to see a
construction tour of Steinmetz Hall. It
is a three-year construction project and now is the time to come and see it.
Chairman
Horan suggested that Ms. Ramsberger identify those that have been major donors
in Seminole County to the extent that they are not anonymous so the Board can
formally thank them. He thought that
each Commissioner could send their own letters, and Commissioner Dallari said
he thinks that it is a great idea. The
Chairman asked that she provide the language they could use about what is
happening with students performing at the Center. He believes that will not only inspire them
to continue giving but also get others that they know who are similarly
situated to get involved in the organization.
He opined Dr. Phillips Center is great for the region and really puts
them on the map in terms of one of the great quality-of-life places in the
world.
Commissioner
Carey stated she used to work for a company that specialized in building
performing arts centers, and professionals in the construction industry come from
all over the country for a project like this because it makes a big difference
with the acoustics and all of the important factors that you don’t think about
in a typical construction project. She
was always amazed at the number of specialized experts from around the country
that were needed for this type of project.
They are housed in the hotels and eat in the restaurants. She remarked if they have not done the
construction tour, they should definitely go and take it because it is
something special to see. Chairman Horan
congratulated Ms. Ramsberger and opined it is great for the community. Commissioner Carey stated congratulations
also to their board who have poured their hearts into it. She mentioned Jim and Alexis Pugh have been
tireless in their efforts. Ms.
Ramsberger noted that Mr. Pugh has been a volunteer since 2003, and he has
given them between 10 and 20 hours per week since then. The Commissioners expressed their
appreciation to Ms. Ramsberger.
COUNTY
MANAGER’S CONSENT AGENDA
Commissioner Dallari stated he received a phone call this
morning about Item #28, Slavia Road PD Major Amendment and Rezone, saying they
will be asking for a continuance. Chairman
Horan confirmed that is the “Racetrac” item.
Commissioner Carey stated Item #19 is the mobile concession for
the parks. The request is for the Board
to approve an Italian ice-type product with no share to the County. She knows that margins can be small and
according to staff, they have a hard time getting vendors who are interested in
being at the parks, but she thinks there are a lot of vendors who might be
interested. She would like to pull the
item for separate discussion.
With
regard to public participation, no one in the audience spoke in support or in
opposition to the Consent Agenda and public input was closed.
Motion by Commissioner Dallari,
seconded by Commissioner Carey, to authorize and approve the following:
County Manager’s Office
Economic Development
5. Approve and authorize the Chairman to execute
a pledge Gift Commitment to the Foundation for Seminole State College of
Florida, Inc., in the amount of $150,000 for services provided through the
Seminole State College Small Business Development Center located at the Port of
Sanford. (2018-0996)
Community Services
Business Office
6. Approve
and authorize the Chairman to execute the Aspire Health Partners, Inc.
Transportation Agreement in the amount of $25,000 to help transport uninsured
Seminole County residents for mental health services. (2018-0946)
7. Approve
and authorize the Chairman to execute the Medical System of Care Agreement with
the Local Health Council of East Central Florida, Inc. d/b/a Health Council of
East Central Florida in the amount of $120,000 which provides outpatient
medical health treatment services to uninsured and underinsured residents of
Seminole County for either free or at a reduced-cost basis. (2018-0948)
Community Assistance
Division
8. Approve
and authorize the Chairman to appoint Jimmie Diller for a vacant board position
on the Committee on Aging in accordance with the guidelines established by
Administrative Code Section 4.6. (2018-0957)
Community Development
Division
9. Approve
and accept the Neighborhood Stabilization Program Snapshot/Report, pursuant to
Seminole County Resolution #2013-R-61, and the HOME Program Activity Report,
pursuant to Seminole County Resolution #2015-R-51 for the month of August,
2018. (2018-1008)
Development
Services
Planning
& Development Division
10. Approve the plat
for the Meadows at Hawks Crest (Phase 2) subdivision containing 129 lots on
22.54 acres zoned PD (Planned Development), located approximately one-quarter
mile north of Howell Branch Road and approximately one-half mile east of Lake
Ann Lane; Nicolas Gluckman, Applicant. (2018-0970)
11. Approve the plat
for the Water’s Edge at Hawk’s Crest subdivision containing 151 lots
on 139.81 acres zoned PD (San Pedro Planned Development), located on the
north side of Howell Branch Road and Eastbrook Boulevard; Alex Madison,
Meritage Homes, Applicant. (2018-1001)
12. Adopt and authorize the Chairman to execute
appropriate Resolution #2018-R-133 vacating and abandoning an Exclusive Access
Easement to the benefit of Seminole County, as recorded in the Public Records
of Seminole County, Official Records Book 1317, pages 1092 through 1093, for
property more particularly known as 345 State Road 436; Kody Still, Applicant. (2018-0969)
Public
Works
Engineering
Division
13. Approve
and authorize the Chairman to execute the Seminole County/MetroPlan Orlando
(Urban Area Metropolitan Planning Organization) Fiscal Year 2018/2019 Funding
Agreement in the amount of $176,218.
(2018-0812)
Resource
Management
Budget
& Fiscal Management
14. Approve and authorize the Chairman to execute
a Federally Funded Subaward and Grant Agreement with the State of Florida,
Division of Emergency Management, in acceptance of $64,169 for the WebEOC
software project; and to adopt and authorize the Chairman to execute appropriate
Resolution #2018-R-130 implementing the Budget Amendment Request (BAR) #19-001
through the Public Safety Grant Fund in the amount of $64,169 to establish
funding. (2018-0988)
15. Approve
and authorize the Chairman to execute appropriate Resolution #2018-R-131 implementing
Budget Amendment Request (BAR) #19-002 through the General Fund and Fire Fund
Reserves to appropriate $8,200,000 for the Portable Radio Replacement Project. (2018-1009)
16. Approve
and authorize the Chairman to execute appropriate Resolution #2018-R-132
implementing Budget Amendment Request (BAR) #19-004 through the General Fund
for the purchase of capital equipment (scoreboard damaged by lightning at
softball complex)in the amount of $10,887. (2018-0999)
Purchasing
& Contracts Division
17. Approve
Amendment #1 to Work Order #41 (SR 46 Utility Relocations - Wekiva Parkway
Section 7B) under PS-8186-13/DRR, Continuing Engineering Services for Utility
Improvement Projects, with CPH, Inc., of Sanford, in the amount of $34,433.64;
and authorize the Purchasing & Contracts Division to execute the Work Order
Amendment. (2018-0963)
18. Approve
Work Order #29 (Remedial Action Plan Implementation Oversight) under
PS-9738-14/JVP, MSA for General Environmental Consultant Services, to E
Sciences, Inc. in the amount of $129,899.27; and authorize the Purchasing &
Contracts Division to execute the Work Order.
(2018-0989)
19. Pulled
for separate discussion by Commissioner Carey.
20. Approve the ranking list, authorize staff to
negotiate rates in accordance with Section 287.055, Florida Statutes, the
Consultants Competitive Negotiation Act (CCNA); and authorize the Purchasing
& Contracts Division to execute three (3) Master Services Agreements (MSAs)
for PS-1998-18/RTB Master Services Agreement for General Environmental
Services. Estimated Annual Usage of
$475,000. (2018-0984)
21. Award RFP-603236-18/TLR, Term Contract for
Pest Control Services, to Apex Pest Control, Inc., Orlando, in the estimated
annual amount of $35,472.00; and authorize the Purchasing & Contracts
Division to execute the Agreement. (2018-0968)
Risk Management
22. Approve settlement of two open Workers’
Compensation claims by a former Firefighter related to a 2012 presumptive heart
disease claim (Claim #542339) and a 2018 PTSD claim (Claim #823297) for the
total amount of $80,000, inclusive of attorney’s fees. (2018-0983)
Districts 1, 2, 3, and 5 voted AYE.
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Consent Agenda Item #19
– 2018-0951
In regard to the request to award
RFQ-603240-18/TLR, Mobile Concessions Services Agreement, to Iliana Palmer d/b/a
I. D-Vine Scoops, Casselberry, Chairman Horan stated he had asked staff about
it. He added this is a concession which
is on an as-needed basis; if they have an event where they think Italian ice
would be wanted, they are on call.
Ray Hooper, Purchasing
& Contracts Manager, addressed the Board and stated these concessions are
mostly “Mom and Pop’s.” They don’t have
storefronts and it is very hard for them to make money on a perishable item,
especially with the flexible schedules that the County requires for the various
events. They are self-contained and very
seldom does the County provide them with any utilities. They expect them to show up on time and
provide a good service at a reasonable price.
If they can achieve that and they get customer satisfaction, that is the
objective of it. He noted they have an
advertised RFP out on the street that is continuous. Sometimes these vendors need help from
Purchasing to even put the proposal together, and they work with them and explain
the terms and conditions of the contracts.
They do require licenses and certain standards in the contract, and they
do background checks and things of that sort.
Chairman Horan wondered
if the vendors with storefronts like the Jeremiahs and Dairy Queens of the
world are not responding to the RFP. Mr.
Hooper explained if they cannot guarantee a clientele and guarantee them a
certain amount of business, they are not willing to take the risk. Ms. Guillet noted this is really something
they do as a service to the patrons that come to their facilities for events,
and it is not intended to be a revenue generator for the County. So in order to get vendors to come, they have
to offer favorable terms.
Commissioner Carey stated
she does not think that the larger storefront-type vendors really monitor the
County’s website for RFPs, and they probably do not even know that the County has
opportunities for vendors on site. She
also thinks they have to do better outreach.
She added this is not like it is on-call; they have events every weekend
and pretty much every day at many of their facilities, so she thinks the
outreach is the important part. She
pointed out the practice of the Parks and Recreation Department has been to do
an 80/20 provision. She said she thinks
that gets more people that really want to be in business rather than somebody
that may want to try to do it as a hobby, and she thinks sometimes they run
into issues like that.
Chairman Horan asked
Commissioner Carey for her suggestion in terms of outreach. Commissioner Carey then asked how many
letters have been sent to Jeremiah’s or Dairy Queen asking if they have a
mobile unit and whether they would like to participate in the parks projects. Mr. Hooper replied they have not sent letters
but they have stopped by and they have been to many vendor shows. They see catering companies and go out of
their way to try to recruit these catering companies, but again the
conversation comes to a screeching halt when they cannot promise them a certain
number of people. If a vendor is going
to prep food at a certain location and carry this food in hot boxes, for
example, to a venue, they want to know how many filet sandwiches they have to prepare
and how many customers will be there.
Mr. Hooper added they cannot guarantee them a certain number of
clientele so their risk is extremely high.
He noted they recruited a hot dog vendor who is currently providing
services for the jury pool on Mondays in front of the Courthouse. Mr. Hooper indicated he is working with him
to try to expand his business so that he can provide an additional day,
Wednesday, at the Courthouse, and then he is going to get him to work in the
parks. He explained it is a process and
it is coaching these small companies that want to do this. He mentioned the hot dog vendor sells two hot
dogs, a bag a chips, and a can of soda for $5.00, and to ask him to provide 10%
or 20% after he pays taxes would cause him to have to increase the price of his
goods and services, which alleviates the benefits to the people that patronize
these companies.
Chairman Horan
commented that they cannot provide the kind of volume they would need. He asked the Clerk how it is working. Clerk Maloy stated Mr. Hooper has done a
great job getting some vendors out there, but it is a gamble because, for
example, one day they released all the jurors before lunch. He said he felt so bad because they all went
home and the vendor was out there with all these hot dogs. It is a real gamble and it was very hard to
get somebody out there.
Commissioner Dallari
questioned whether they can terminate the contract for no-cause at any
time. Mr. Hooper answered they can and
noted the vendor is usually the one that will terminate it because they are not
making any money. The Commissioner said
then there is no harm in approving this and asking staff to make a conscious
effort to look at other avenues and venues.
Commissioner Carey opined she just wanted to talk about it because they
do want to provide options to people in the parks, but when they started the
vendor conversation about inviting vendors to the parks, the Director stated he
wanted to do it on an 80/20 percentage and most of their contracts have been that
way. If they are going to offer the
service for free, she certainly thinks that they ought to make sure that
everybody who potentially could be a vendor would have the opportunity. Ms. Guillet stated they do have arrangements
at their larger facilities like the Sports Complex and Soldiers Creek where
there is a split of the profits, because there is a great attendance and a
greater opportunity for profit. Mr.
Hooper added that they are contracted out and they provide a facility for them,
so obviously they need to share in the profits.
Chairman Horan expressed this is a market-driven problem and not a
communication issue.
Motion by Commissioner Constantine, seconded
by Commissioner Dallari, to award RFQ-603240-18/TLR, Mobile Concessions
Services Agreement, to Iliana Palmer d/b/a I. D-Vine Scoops, Casselberry; and
authorize the Purchasing & Contracts Division to execute the Agreement.
Districts 1, 2, 3, and
5 voted AYE.
County Attorney’s Office
Motion by
Commissioner Constantine, seconded by Commissioner Carey, to approve the
following:
23. Adopt
and authorize the Chairman to execute appropriate Resolution #2018-R-134
approving, solely for the limited purposes of Section 147(f) of the Internal
Revenue Code, the issuance by the Capital Trust Agency of its senior living
revenue bonds (Grand Villa Portfolio Project), Series 2018, for the purpose of
financing the senior living facilities herein described, one of which is
located in the County; and providing an effective date. (2018-0995)
24. Approve
and authorize the Chairman to execute a Voluntary Collection Agreement for
Seminole County, Florida Tourist Development Tax by and among Airbnb, Inc.,
Joel M. Greenberg, Seminole County Tax Collector, and Seminole County,
Florida. (2018-1007)
Districts 1, 2, 3, and 5 voted AYE.
CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICER’S CONSENT
AGENDA
Clerk
& Comptroller’s Office
Motion by Commissioner
Carey, seconded by Commissioner Dallari, to approve the following:
25. Approve
Expenditure Approval Lists dated September 10 and 17, 2018 and Payroll Approval
List dated September 6, 2018. (2018-0992)
Districts 1, 2,
3, and 5 voted AYE.
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The
Board noted, for information only, the following Clerk & Comptroller’s
“Received and Filed”:
1. Florida Public Service Commission Order
#PSC-2018-0367-TRF-EI approving limited proceeding to include in base rates the
revenue requirement for the Citrus combined cycle project; Duke Energy Florida,
LLC; Docket #20180084-EI, Issued July 25, 2018.
2. Florida Public Service Commission Order
#PSC-2018-0372-TRF-EI approving petition to modify general rules and
regulations governing electric service, billing, residential and
non-residential budget billing; Duke Energy Florida, LLC; Docket #20180123-EI,
Issued July 30, 2018.
3. Florida Public Service Commission Consummating
Order #PSC-2018-0409-CO-EI petition for limited proceeding for approval to
include in base rates the revenue requirement for the Citrus combined cycle
project; Duke Energy Florida, LLC; Docket #20180084-EI, Issued August 20, 2018.
4. Florida Public Service Commission Consummating
Order #PSC-2018-0425-CO-EI petition for approval of modifications to Section
No. IV, general rules and regulations governing electric service, Part VIII
billing, residential and non-residential budget billing; Duke Energy Florida,
LLC; Docket #20180123-EI, Issued August 24, 2018.
5. Florida Public Service Commission Order
#PSC-2018-0435-TRF-EI granting Duke Energy Florida, LLC’s petition for approval
of a smart meter opt-out tariff; Duke Energy Florida, LLC; Docket #20180088-EI,
Issued August 28, 2018.
6. Conditional Utility Agreement for water,
wastewater, or reclaimed water services with Central Parc at Howell Branch, LLC
for the project known as Central Parc at Howell Branch.
7. Maintenance Bond #1068968 (Streets, Curbs,
Storm Drains) in the amount of $56,901.85 and Rider (correcting the bond number
from #1068967 to #1068968) for the project known as Griffin Farm at Midtown.
8. Maintenance Bond #CMS0330172 (Streets, Curbs,
Storm Drains) in the amount of $37,129.86; Maintenance Bond #CMS0330166
(Private Road) in the amount of $78,799.09; and Performance Bond #CMS0330168
(Roads, Streets, Drainage) in the amount of $408,428.46 for the project known
as Parkdale Place.
9. Performance Bond #SU1151356 (Roads, Streets,
Drainage) in the amount of $599,787.72, Plat Recording Information Receipt, and
Title Opinion for the project known as Whitetail Run.
10. Parks Contracts for Services with Bobby Duncan
and Mark Brotman.
11. Tourist Tax Funding Agreement with Prospect
Wire, Inc. for the Fall Classic.
12. Development Order #18-27500028 for Alcoholic
Beverage License, Blue Marlin Seafood Restaurant and Oyster Bar; Behrooz
Gabrany.
13. Development Order #18-27500029 for Alcoholic
Beverage License, Grato Italian Grill & Pizzeria; Pamela Diiorio.
14. Development Order #18-27500030 for Alcoholic
Beverage License, Tandoori Bowl, LLC; Haritha Sabbineni.
15. Approval Development Orders #18-30000061, 4482
Weeping Willow Circle, Carmelo Diaz; #18-30000062, 3891 Aldergate Place, Karen
Sigman and Michael Wilson; #18-30000063, 2200 Cove Court, Brian and Sara
Resshke; and #18-30000064, 3500 Seaford Lane, Hugh Harris.
16. Denial Development Order #18-32000005, Galileo
Gifted School, Ann Flavin.
17. Amendment #1 to Work Order #11 to RFP-0532-15
with Connect Consulting, Inc.
18. Work Order #22 to CC-0559-15 with Southland
Construction, Inc.
19. Change Order #2 to Work Order #2 to
RFP-1294-17 with Pat Lynch Construction.
20. Work Order #4 to PS-1522-17 with Tierra, Inc.
21. Work Order #3 to PS-1529-17 with Albeck
Gerken, Inc.
22. Work Order #1 to PS-1822-18 with Reiss
Engineering, Inc.
23. Project Agreement PS-1920-18 with
Infrastructure Engineers, LLC; as approved by the BCC on August 14, 2018.
24. Construction Services Agreement CC-1968-18
with TDH Construction, Inc.
25. Construction Services Agreement CC-2019-18
with Glen Holt Aluminum, LLC.
26. Amendment #1 to Work Order #15 to PS-2051-07
with Environmental Research & Design, Inc.
27. Amendment #4 to Work Order #62 to PS-4388-09
with Reynolds Smith & Hills, Inc.
28. Fourteenth Amendment to RFP-600006-06 with
CATO Environmental Services, Inc.
29. Second Amendment to IFB-601758-13 with Central
Florida Environmental Corporation (Secondary Contractor).
30. Assignment of Term Contract M-602686-16 with
Robert Deck, Inc. f/d/b/a Labor Finders.
31. Amendment #1 to RFP-602875-17 with Paymentus
Corporation.
32. First Amendment to RFP-603046-18 with Charles
Aquatics, Inc.
33. Term Contract IFB-603221-18 with Butler Animal
Health Supply, LLC d/b/a Henry Schein Animal Health.
34. Amendment #1 to Work Order #4 to PS-9464-14
with GAI Consultants, Inc.
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Chairman
Horan again announced that the Applicant has requested a continuance of Item
#28.
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Chairman
Horan recessed the meeting at 10:50 a.m.,
reconvening
at 1:30 p.m., with all Commissioners and all other Officials with the exception
of Deputy Clerk Terri Porter, who was replaced by Deputy Clerk Kyla Farrell,
who were present at the Opening Session.
PROOFS OF PUBLICATION
Motion
by Commissioner Constantine, seconded by Commissioner Carey, to authorize the
filing of the proofs of publication for this meeting's scheduled public
hearings into the Official Record.
Districts 1, 2, 3 and 5 voted AYE.
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Commissioners Dallari, Carey and Constantine
submitted their ex parte communications (received and filed).
PUBLIC HEARINGS
CELERY AVENUE RIGHT-OF-WAY-VACATE/
Archie
and Debbie Smith
Agenda Item #26 – 2018-0572
Continuation of a public hearing from March
27, April 10, May 22, June 12, June 26, and August 14, 2018, to consider a
request to approve a Resolution vacating and abandoning a remnant piece of the
public right-of-way known as Celery Avenue, as recorded in Road Plat Book 1,
page 47, in the Public Records of Seminole County, Florida, for property
located at the intersection of Celery Avenue and East SR 415, Sanford, as
described in the proof of publication; Archie and Debbie Smith.
Molly Wolk, Court Reporter with Phipps
Reporting, was present.
Angi Kealhofer, Planning & Development
Divsion, addressed the Board and presented the item as outlined in the Agenda
Memorandum. Ms. Kealhofer stated
easements are necessary to complete the vacation because there are County
drainage facilities that are being vacated.
The Applicants are supplying easements which will be conveyed to the
County. Staff recommends adoption of the
Resolution.
J. Christy Wilson, III, 601 Fern Creek
Avenue, addressed the Board on behalf of the Applicants. He advised they concur with staff’s presentation
and he would be happy to answer any questions the Board may have.
With regard to public participation, no one
else in the audience spoke in support or in opposition to Item #26 and public
input was closed.
Public Comment Form was received and filed.
Commissioner Carey stated this item has
been continued a number of times and the reason for those continuances was to
confirm that the County won’t need any portion of it including the corner where
it comes together with the right-of-way at Celery Avenue for the County’s
future trail. Staff spent extra time
looking at that and talking to the consultant firm that is working on the trail
to make sure the County has the correct easements and those types of things.
Motion by
Commissioner Carey, seconded by Commissioner Dallari, to
adopt appropriate Resolution #2018-R-135 vacating and abandoning a remnant
piece of the public right-of-way known as Celery Avenue, as recorded in Road
Plat Book 1, page 47, in the Public Records of Seminole County, Florida, for property
located at the intersection of Celery Avenue and East SR 415, Sanford, as
described in the proof of publication; Archie and Debbie Smith, Applicants.
Under discussion,
Chairman Horan stated he knows they retain certain easements, and he asked if
those are drainage easements.
Commissioner Carey answered yes.
Districts 1, 2, 3 and 5
voted AYE.
GATEWAY AT ST. JOHNS LSLUA AND PD REZONE/
Daniel Kaiser
Agenda Item #27 – 2018-0036
Proof of publication calling for a public
hearing to consider transmittal of a proposed Ordinance enacting a Large Scale
Future Land Use Map Amendment (LSFULA) from Planned Development, Industrial,
and Suburban Estates to Planned Development; and the associated Ordinance
enacting a Rezone from A-1 (Agriculture) and PD (Planned Development) to PD
(Planned Development) for a sixty-five (65) lot single-family residential
subdivision on 14.48 acres, located on the north side of Orange Boulevard,
one-half mile west of Monroe Road, Daniel Kaiser, received and filed.
Joy Giles, Planning & Development Division, addressed the Board
and presented the item as outlined in the Agenda Memorandum. Ms. Giles pointed out the site will access
from Missouri Avenue, and the developer will be required to improve the road to
County standards for width, pavement, and sidewalk. Access is not proposed from Orange Boulevard;
however the developer will be dedicating right-of-way to the County for road
improvements including a northbound turn lane on Orange Boulevard and a
westbound turn lane on Missouri Avenue.
Ms. Giles advised the Applicant proposes a 10-foot-wide landscape buffer
on the south and east perimeter and a 15-foot buffer on the west and north
perimeter. Buffer components include a
six-foot-high masonry wall along Missouri Avenue and Orange Boulevard and a
six-foot-high vinyl fence along the north and east perimeters. Ms. Giles stated utilities will be provided
by Seminole County and the internal road will be privately owned and maintained
by the HOA. She indicated staff finds
the request to be compatible with the surrounding trend of development and
recommends transmittal.
Ms. Giles advised there were some minor
changes to the Development Order which was distributed this morning. Those changes were highlighted in yellow and
include, as stated in her presentation, the masonry wall requirement as well as
the road improvement requirement. Two
letters of opposition were distributed as well (included in Agenda Backup).
Charlie Madden with Madden, Moorhead and
Stokes addressed the Board and noted he is representing M/I Homes, the contract
purchaser of the property. Mr. Madden
presented a conceptual site plan (received and filed). He pointed out the recently approved Tesoro
Townhomes; FLU - MDR to the west across Orange, and FLU - SE zoning to the
north, which is where they placed the pond to buffer the larger lots. He opined it would have been reasonable to
request the same approvals that Tesoro got, which was 10 units per acre. This proposal is at 4.4 units an acre, and
M/I decided they wanted to do a detached product so it is down to 65
units. Mr. Madden thinks most of the
neighbors are pleased. He advised this
project’s entrance will line up with Tesoro’s entrance on Missouri, and the
County did look at what roadway improvements would make the Missouri/Orange
intersection function properly. Between
Tesoro and the proposed project, Tesoro will do an eastbound left-turn lane and
the developer for the proposed project will be doing a westbound
right-deceleration lane and they will have three lanes coming out of Missouri
(a dedicated right, a dedicated left, and an “in” lane.) Mr. Madden concluded his presentation by
stating he would be glad to answer any questions the Board may have.
Commissioner Carey confirmed with Mr.
Madden that the Applicant agrees to the suggested revisions on Items K and L of
the Development Order. Mr. Madden
clarified it sounded like the north buffer was 15 feet but it is actually 10
feet.
Bruce Anderson, 1730 Perch Lane, addressed
the Board and stated originally his neighborhood did not support the project;
but after seeing how involved County staff was in regard to the traffic study
on Orange and Missouri, he is in support of the project.
With regard to public participation, no one
else in the audience spoke in support or in opposition to Item #27 and public
input was closed.
Public Comment Form for Mr. Anderson was
received and filed.
Motion
by Commissioner Carey, seconded by Commissioner Dallari, to transmit the
proposed Ordinance enacting a Large Scale Future Land Use Map Amendment from
Planned Development, Industrial, and Suburban Estates to Planned Development to
State and regional review agencies; and transmit the associated Ordinance
enacting a Rezone from A-1 (Agriculture) and PD (Planned Development) to PD
(Planned Development); and transmit the associated Development Order that was
circulated before the meeting and Master Plan for 14.48 acres, located on the
north side of Orange Boulevard, one-half mile west of Monroe Road, as described
in the proof of publication; Daniel Kaiser, Applicant.
Districts 1, 2, 3 and 5 voted AYE.
SLAVIA ROAD PD MAJOR AMENDMENT & REZONE/
Brian Thornton
Agenda Item #28 – 2018-0026
Proof of publication calling for a public
hearing to consider an Ordinance enacting a Major Amendment and Rezone from PD
(Planned Development) to PD (Planned Development), on 4.7 acres, for a
convenience store with gas pumps, located at the corner of Red Bug Lake Road
and Slavia Road, Brian Thornton, received and filed.
Ms. Giles advised staff received a request
from the Applicant to continue the item to the December 11, 2018, BCC meeting
agenda.
Motion by Commissioner Dallari, seconded by Commissioner Carey, to continue to December 11, 2018, at
1:30 p.m., or as soon thereafter as possible, the request to consider an
Ordinance enacting a Rezone from PD (Planned Development) to PD (Planned
Development); and the associated Development Order and Master Development Plan
on 4.7 acres, located at the corner of Red Bug Lake Road and Slavia Road, as
described in the proof of publication; Brian Thornton, Applicant.
Katrina Shadix, 1421 Bringham Loop,
addressed the Board and advised she does not have any comment regarding a
continuance but does want to speak in opposition to the project. She asked if she should speak now or wait to
speak at the December 11 meeting.
Chairman Horan advised the appropriate time would be at the December 11
meeting when the item is heard.
With regard to public participation, no one
else in the audience spoke in regard to the continuance of Item #28 and public
input was closed.
Public Comment Form was received and filed.
Districts 1, 2, 3 and 5 voted AYE.
THE GODDARD SCHOOL REZONE/
Priya Abraham
Agenda Item #29 – 2018-0037
Proof of publication calling for a public hearing to consider an
Ordinance enacting a Rezone from A-1 (Agriculture) to OP (Office) for a
preschool on approximately 1.79 acres, located on the east side of S. Henderson
Lane, south of W. SR 46, Priya Abraham, received and filed.
Ms. Giles presented the item as outlined in
the Agenda Memorandum. She noted both
the Planning & Zoning Commission and staff recommend approval.
John Herbert, American Civil Engineering
Company, addressed the Board and noted he is here today with Erin Witt from
Goddard Systems to give the Board a brief overview of the Goddard School. Ms. Witt addressed the Board and stated
Goddard has been in operation for 30 years and they will open their 500th
school later this year. The childcare
center serves children six weeks to six years of age, which is a national
standard for childcare facilities. They
have a learn-through-play based curriculum and require on-site owners at all of
their locations. They provide daily operational
guidance for the franchisees by way of a franchise business consultant as well
as educational support specialists. She
discussed the security at Goddard School buildings, teacher-to-student ratios,
and peak business hours. All of their
buildings are fully sprinkled and the hours are generally 7:00 a.m. to 6:00
p.m.
Commissioner Carey confirmed with Ms. Witt
that they take infants as early as six weeks.
Commissioner Dallari asked how many locations Goddard has locally. Ms. Witt wasn’t sure of the exact number but
named several Florida locations including some in Seminole County.
With regard to public participation, no one
in the audience spoke in support or in opposition to Item #29 and public input
was closed.
Motion by Commissioner Carey, seconded by Commissioner Constantine, to adopt
Ordinance #2018-31 enacting a Rezone from A-1 (Agriculture) to OP (Office); and
approve the associated Development Order for a preschool on approximately 1.79
acres, located on the east side of S. Henderson Lane, south of W. SR 46, as
described in the proof of publication; Priya Abraham, Applicant.
Districts 1, 2, 3 and 5 voted AYE.
PARKSIDE PLACE LSLUA AND REZONE (FKA REAGAN CENTER)/
Jon Walls, NAI Realvest
Agenda Item #30 – 2018-0040
Proof of publication calling for a public hearing to consider
transmittal of a proposed Ordinance enacting a Large Scale Future Land Use Map
Amendment from Planned Development to Planned Development; and the associated
Ordinance enacting a Rezone from PD (Planned Development) to PD (Planned
Development) for a mixed-use development on approximately 110 acres, located on
the north and south sides of Ronald Reagan Blvd., and east of County Home Road
and U.S. Hwy. 17-92, Jon Walls, NAI Realvest, received and filed.
Danalee Petyk, Planning & Development
Division, addressed the Board and presented the item as outlined in the Agenda
Memorandum. She stated County staff met
with the City of Lake Mary and the City of Sanford who expressed concerns with
the traffic impacts onto U.S. Hwy. 17-92 and the neighboring cities. The Applicant proposes to develop Parkside
Place with a mix of transit options such as bike share, car share, a Lynx bus
stop, and a shuttle service to the nearby SunRail station to support less
surface parking and to decrease the overall traffic impacts the project will
generate. County staff will further
require a full traffic impact analysis and a parking study prior to each
phase’s construction and County staff will continue intergovernmental
coordination with City staff.
Ms. Petyk advised the project will provide
effective buffers along all four perimeters and will provide 30% open space and
appropriate setbacks from the surrounding properties and increased setbacks
from Ronald Reagan Boulevard. She
explained the proposed Parkside Place PD is part of a larger trend of creating
walkable, city-like places in suburban areas where people desire a more
compact, dense, and walkable environment.
The higher density proposed with the Parkside Place PD supports this
environment and encourages and supports transit in lieu of a car-dependent,
typical suburban neighborhood. The
location’s proximity to large employment centers between two large arterial
roads makes it an ideal place to support this type of development with higher
density and intensity.
Ms. Petyk stated staff finds the proposed
development to be consistent with the Comprehensive Plan and the Land
Development Code. The Planning &
Zoning Commission met on October 3 and voted to recommend the BCC transmit the
request. She advised staff recommends
transmittal.
Hal Kantor with Lowndes, Drosdick, Doster,
Kantor & Reed, 215 North Eola Avenue, addressed the Board and played two
videos which discussed the popular trend of “instant towns” and the need for
the old Flea World property to be redeveloped.
Mr. Kantor stated this is an exciting and unique project. A true mixed-use project works because it has
a dense urban base; and if you have a dense urban base, it powers the office,
retail, amenities and recreational areas.
Parkside is daring but logical; it is appropriate for the site. He advised they are using best practices in
the design principles. Parkside Place is
being developed by Palmeira Holdings whose team has over 300 years of worldwide
real estate experience.
Mr. Kantor introduced Karim Ismail from
Palmeira Holdings and stated Mr. Ismail has over 20 years’ experience
conceptualizing, planning, and managing complex development projects throughout
the world. He’s a guy that thinks of
future trends, and that is what the Board needs to think of today. Karim Ismail, Co-CEO of Palmeira Holdings,
addressed the Board and displayed a presentation entitled “Parkside Place One
With Nature” (received and filed). He stated
to be honest they were looking for a much smaller site for townhouse
development. They spoke with the then
owner Syd Levy about the site and Mr. Levy was adamant that he was not going to
split up the site and had a vision of something significant developed on the
site. So since he wouldn’t split it up,
they could either walk or engage further.
Mr. Ismail explained the site has a few challenges: there are 33 acres
of conservation space on which they can’t build, it is a very large site, the
County wanted a road, and there is completely insufficient density to make it
commercially valuable.
Ms. Ismail advised he went back and worked
with his team and an international master design firm. He expressed the location of the site is
terrific in terms of location, but they had to ask how they could make it work;
and from there evolved five principles.
They want to extend the nature that’s already there and create more of a
park-like setting and do whatever they can do to rehab the natural reserves. They want to create a new lifestyle; the
ability to live, work, play and shop all in one location as opposed to what you
often see in land use policies where people live, work, play and shop in
different areas which is why there is so much traffic. Mr. Ismail stated they see it as an
opportunity for a new destination so that they could have new programming for
the community and the residents at Parkside Place, whether it’s outdoor movies
or organic markets. They also want to
ensure that the site would be authentically sustainable by being very careful
of what they develop, the materials they use, the amount of light people get in
the buildings, et cetera so that sustainability permeates everything they
do. He advised they want to make sure
that there is a health focus; wellness in terms of the restaurants and
amenities that they have on the site.
Those are the principles that have guided all of the planning, and it
has been months of planning with staff.
Mr. Ismail stated they went through a very
delicate balancing act. If they have
less height and spread the buildings out, then they have to have less open
space; so they have some height requirements that are more than the current
approval. Parking requirements are
excessive and that starts to have an impact on open space and the affordability
of the units they create because parking costs and those costs have to be
passed on. If they look at
sustainability, even sustainability has an impact on height. In some of the commercial towers they have
asked for a height increase because on one of the floors they could house
equipment that grabs moisture from the atmosphere and converts it to pure
drinking water, which requires a little more height. Ms. Ismail explained if they don’t have
sufficient density, it is difficult to justify having an alternative to cars
(like shuttles) because those alternatives need volume. They needed to make sure that the project in
its entirety was commercially viable, so the program they have put together and
the heights, densities, and open space all work together.
Mr. Ismail reviewed Variety of Housing
Types and Mixed Uses: Maximums which include 4,076 multifamily units; 752
student housing units; 184 unit independent living facility; 312-bed assisted
living facility; 1,390,000 square feet of office use; 340,000 square feet of
retail use; and 250 hotel rooms. He
stated without residential density, mixed-use projects fail miserably. Mr. Ismail displayed an early rendering of
the project and noted they engaged HHCP Architects to look at what the maximum
is that the site could take, and there were compromises in terms of the
greenspace they could have. They revised
the plan and cut the office space from 4 million to 1.4 million. He displayed and reviewed the Preliminary,
Exploratory Concept slides and emphasized that they are early exploratory
renderings to give people a feel of what could possibly be there. He pointed out retention ponds, amenities,
greenspace, possible transportation areas, buildings, bike and walking trails,
landscaping, and green roofs throughout the site.
Mr. Ismail explained if they get approval
and get through the final Development Order, they will go through about 9 to 12
months of extensive planning based on the principles that he has already
established. They have a fair amount of
flexibility to plan things out, but that flexibility is not unlimited. He wants to make sure they respect the
ambiance along Ronald Reagan. He
displayed the last Preliminary, Exploratory Concept and pointed out the view,
buffer, and wellness theme. Mr. Ismail
reviewed Benefits of the Parkside Place Project. He stated there was a previous agreement for
a shared cost with the County for Spine Road connecting Ronald Reagan and
17-92. The Applicant has assumed that as
a private road and the full cost of that road.
Mr. Ismail displayed Key Thoughts and
advised they anticipate the cost of the project to be about $2 billion. To make the project work, they need patient
private equity. When you put in
sustainable “stuff” it takes a while to get a payoff. When you do a project of this size, it is not
something they can build in three years and sell in another two; it is long
term. The kind of private equity that
would fund it has a long-term perspective and is looking for steady yields over
time. Mr. Ismail indicated they will use
next year to do a lot of planning, but they foresee a shovel in the ground in
2020. All going well and no recessions,
they see a completion date of around 2032 give or take. They were asked to evaluate the project
against FLU 5.17 standards and they submitted that. He claimed they certainly meet or exceed all
of the standards. Mr. Ismail stated they
hope the end result is a world-class model project in the county that will get
studied and repeated elsewhere for all of the benefits that it offers to the
community.
Mr. Kantor stated the Board and staff had
provided some very valuable input, so they modified the project and there are
some modifications today. He reviewed
Development Order Commitments which include affordable housing, a pedestrian
bridge from the project to the other side of 17-92, fire safety improvements,
and traffic and parking analysis studies prior to each phase. In regard to the pedestrian bridge,
Commissioner Carey stated the modified language that staff presented states the
developer will pay 50% of the total cost.
She knows that in earlier discussions staff had said that the last time
they built a pedestrian bridge it was about $4.5 million to $5 million. When she talked to Public Works Director Jean
Jreij, his estimate was that the pedestrian bridge would be about $10 million
to $12 million. She thinks the developer
initially agreed to the commitment thinking it was $5 million. Commissioner Carey reiterated the modified
language states the developer will pay 50% of the cost. If it is $12 million, obviously it is going
to be more than the $5 million stated in Mr. Kantor’s presentation.
Mr. Kantor stated they agree with staff,
but they don’t have the answers yet. He
explained the Applicant has to come back and present to the Board a program
that works for both the Applicant and the County. They can’t negotiate that today, so they do
have a time period in which they can accomplish it. It is a risk of the Applicant, not of the
County. Commissioner Carey stated as of
right now what was originally published says that the cost of the pedestrian
bridge, when and if warranted, will be at the developer’s expense in its
entirety. The information presented by
Mr. Kantor today states $5 million and Mr. Jreij estimates it may be as much as
$10 million. Commissioner Carey advised
she thought it was reasonable to revise the language to say the developer would
have no less than 50% of the participation; but her question to the developer is
if it’s 50% and that 50% happens to be north of $10 million, is that still
something the developer is willing to do.
Mr. Kantor answered yes and added they are willing to pay 50% and they
recognize it could be more than $5 million.
Commissioner Dallari stated he would like
to get some more information because he isn’t sure 50% is adequate. It’s the developer’s project, and they are
creating the need to cross over the road.
Mr. Kantor replied that need may only relate to the student housing and
the County has a lot of employees that may end up living at Parkside
Place. Commissioner Dallari reiterated
it is the developer’s building, and they are creating the need.
Chairman Horan stated the problem he has
with the bridge is the reason for the bridge is because the Applicant is
anticipating student housing and anticipating that the entire project is going
to have to move east and west since everything in that area moves north and
south. They are anticipating that the
traffic that moves east and west is going to be pedestrian traffic and they’ll
be hitting the crosswalk button to cross 17-92 and slow down traffic. Chairman Horan opined people do not like to
walk that far, so what will most likely happen is they will have internal
transportation. He stated if they are
going to build a bridge, build a bridge because vans and shuttles going across
17-92 will slow down traffic as well. He
isn’t sure that they are talking about the need for a pedestrian bridge as much
as how they will move traffic east and west that will be created by the fact that
they will have housing on one side and the end user on the other. He suggested an actual bridge. Chairman Horan discussed a pedestrian bridge
versus an actual bridge that carries vehicles.
Mr. Kantor stated during each phase the
developer has to do a traffic impact analysis and that analysis will determine
what is needed to handle the traffic; and if a bridge is needed because that’s
what the traffic statistics show, then the developer is burdened with that
bridge. Chairman Horan stated what they
really need to have is useful transportation and movement from east and west
across that corridor based upon the full development of the project, based upon
the continued success and density that is going to be created by the government
complex assuming they build it, and the continued success of Seminole State
College. Mr. Kantor reminded they are
building a road through the property for east and west transit. It goes from 17-92 directly to Ronald Reagan
and Ronald Reagan is an east and west route.
Chairman Horan advised they shouldn’t be
limited to thinking that they’re just going to need a pedestrian bridge in the
future. Commissioner Carey responded
they may not; the studies may warrant that in fact there doesn’t need to be a
bridge if they have car sharing and some of the other ideas. It may not become an issue. Commissioner Carey stated the Development
Order that was advertised says the developer will pay the cost of a pedestrian
bridge. The language that was modified
and distributed says that they would pay 50% of the cost of the pedestrian
bridge. Whatever the traffic study says,
it is going to be warranted at some point.
She explained they are investing billions of dollars into a development
to redevelop a property and they were willing to make a $5 million commitment
to a pedestrian bridge; but then the County Engineer estimated the cost at $10
million or $12 million, and that’s not the number the Applicant was given in
the discussion when they agreed to the Development Order.
Mr. Kantor stated at the time they came up
with the number, they were told that it was a $4.5 million cost and the
developer provided $5 million.
Commissioner Carey pointed out that the Development Order doesn’t say $5
million; it says the developer will pay for the bridge if it’s ever warranted
no matter how much it costs. She
suggested it could say 50% or up to $5 million because the County has
development that they are looking at occurring out there; and hopefully the
County creates some height, density and jobs in that area that may warrant the
bridge.
Mr. Kantor explained there will be four
traffic impact analyses for each phase.
They did a traffic analysis but it was a Comp Plan traffic analysis, not
an operational traffic analysis. So when
they do an operational traffic analysis, he doesn’t know what it will
require. Mr. Kantor expressed the
problem with the future is they don’t know what the answers are. He discussed the change in transportation,
ride sharing, and how young people are not buying cars. In regard to fire safety, Mr. Kantor stated,
again, they don’t have all the answers.
They have been told that the County does need a ladder truck and a place
to house it. He proposed the question
how will that be paid for. Mr. Kantor
explained he doesn’t know but they are going to come up with a plan that may
include a Fire District, like an MSBU, and taxing for the equipment. They have to come back with the answers to
all of these unknowns to satisfy the Board.
He pointed out all of the Development Order commitments have to go
before the Board and get approved prior to Phase 1 final engineering site plan
approval, but his goal is to do it in the next few months.
Mr. Kantor reviewed Design and Ride
Reduction Strategies. He stated somebody
asked if they would sell out-parcels and his answer was it is not their
intention to do that at all except with the ALCF, which is the piece on the far
eastern part of the property that is half a mile away from the
intersection. Mr. Kantor displayed and
reviewed Extraordinary Benefits. He
requested approval of transmittal of the item.
Chairman Horan pointed out on Mr. Kantor’s
last slide it shows Property Tax Revenue at $29 million. The Chairman expressed the entire
International Parkway Corridor generates about $10.5 million a year. Mr. Kantor explained all they did was take $2
billion and multiply it times the County’s tax rate. They didn’t take into consideration homestead
because they don’t have that. Chairman
Horan stated he spoke with the Property Appraiser and went through each
constituent element and worked into the calculation the homestead on the
residential units. They came up with
somewhere in the neighborhood of about $24 million. Commissioner Carey pointed out there is no
homestead in the project, so everything will pay taxes across the board; there
won’t be any deductions at all. Chairman
Horan stated whether they use an MSBU or some other kind of element, he
presumes as they go vertical on the project, they will have discussions
concerning those particular things. He
expressed he is staggered by the economic impact of this particular project. There has never been a project like this or
even close to it in Seminole County.
Chairman Horan stated he is also staggered
by patient private equity. He explained
they’re talking about $2 billion of a private equity investment, and they’re
not accustomed to that in Central Florida.
Mr. Kantor stated he has several clients who are foreign based, and it
is very hard for him to represent those clients. His head is always with how the folks that
they generally know do business. So when
he’s dealing with people who have different expectations and look for stability
in funding as opposed to American-based institutions, it is a totally different
ballgame and gives him as an attorney a lot of leeway in doing things.
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Chairman
Horan recessed the meeting at 2:55 p.m.; reconvening at 3:00 p.m., with Deputy
Clerk Kyla Farrell being replaced by Deputy Clerk Jane Spencer.
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Mr. Kantor indicated that he was finished with his presentation and
requested the Board's approval. He added
that they are available to answer any questions. Commissioner Carey referred to Item T in the
published Development Order and pointed out that Item T says that a multimodal
study will be required prior to Phase I final engineering site plan approval to
determine when and if a pedestrian overpass bridge will be required and the
cost of the pedestrian bridge, when and if warranted, will be at the
developer's expense. Commissioner Carey
informed Mr. Kantor that that is what it says and asked if he is okay with that
language. She noted that the anticipated
amount was $5 million, and she is trying to clarify that before somebody says
they are okay with some unlimited, open-ended number.
Mr. Kantor informed the Board that they hope and think there are other
sources that will be available for funding so they wouldn't have to bear the
whole share. They would like to look at
that and make proposals. He added maybe
there is funding from the DOT for pedestrian bridges. Commissioner Carey emphasized that she is
just telling Mr. Kantor what the Development Order that is before the Board to
be voted on today says. Ms. Guillet
advised that this will come back to the Board a second time. Commissioner Carey pointed out that if this
is approved with an unlimited amount on it and it comes back to the Board, it
will come back to the Board exactly the same.
She does not believe that was the intent when the discussion started
with staff and this Applicant. She does
not want to see everyone get way down the road and the Applicant has invested
more money and then they are sitting here having a discussion that could blow
up a development order.
Ms. Guillet suggested that if the Board is inclined to move the rest
of it forward, the Board could move it forward with the condition that between
now and the adoption hearing, staff will continue to work with the Applicant to
craft the appropriate language. Mr.
Kantor indicated that was fine but noted they would prefer it to be limited to
50 percent. He added they will work with
the County. Commissioner Carey pointed
out that the County Engineer provided some language that said 50 percent of the
cost. Mr. Kantor indicated that is
acceptable to the Applicant.
Commissioner Carey advised she is not sure everybody has seen that or
that everybody would be in agreement with that.
Commissioner Dallari stated he has not seen that and does not know what
the exposure is because he has only heard and read what is in the
application. He is assuming the
Applicant is taking the whole percentage; that is the pretense he came to this
meeting with. He stated he has no
problem exploring it from now until it comes back for final adoption; he thinks
that is fair.
Chairman Horan stated that Mr. Kantor mentioned that “by that time
there might be other vehicles" and talked about an MSBU and so forth. The Chairman asked Mr. Kantor if he
envisioned the developer coming back at some point and asking the Board to form
an MSBU or form some kind of special taxing district or something of that
nature for either fire or transportation or something beyond the impact fees. Mr. Kantor responded possibly because that is
something they want to look at. They
have started pulling the statutes but they are not prepared to discuss it
today. He advised that is one of the things
they want to look at, an MSBU type of setup.
Commissioner Carey asked whether that would be similar to a community
taxing district like Disney did.
Chairman Horan suggested it could be a CDD, and Mr. Kantor stated he had
not thought of a CDD.
Rizwan Jessa, 164 Magnolia Park Trail, addressed the Board to speak in
support. Mr. Jessa stated his office is
right behind this plot and noted that it is currently an eyesore. He talked about how he has been following
this project and how it will be a big boost to local industries, including his
own. He supports the project and hopes
it goes through.
Michael Chatham, 212 East Concord Street, addressed the Board to speak
in support. Mr. Chatham stated he is
with Helman, Hurley, Charvat, & Peacock Architects in Orlando and has had
early involvement with the project. He
talked about how it has been very refreshing to work on this project. He noted they had to sell him on trying to
achieve this kind of density and had to make him a believer in the
project. Throughout the entire process,
they have had a great deal of concern for the neighboring properties and how
this development would impact the neighbors, how it would work with the
community, how it would interact with the environment, and how the traffic
would impact the entire community. Mr.
Chatham stated he has become a strong believer in this project and believes the
goal of creating a community that is strong for both the residents and
neighbors is a solid one. He discussed
the idea of a sustainable community and explained that they have looked at
ideas; such as, solar farming on top of the buildings, using the rooftops for
urban farming, and creating more green space on top of these buildings. He believes there are a lot of very strong
ideas in this project and he is very excited about them as a designer.
With regard to public participation, no one
else in the audience spoke in support or in opposition to Item #30 and public
input was closed.
Public Comment Forms were received and
filed.
Chairman Horan stated this is a District 2 matter and reported that he
has had a couple of ex parte communications; one with the Applicant's
representative and the other one was a meeting with their attorney. He will
make his decision based upon the relevant evidence that has been adduced at
this hearing and is also in the record.
Commissioner Dallari stated he thinks this project is very exciting
and thanked the Applicant for bringing it to the County. The Commissioner noted the Applicant is
asking that the project be transmitted to Tallahassee and he personally does
not see a reason why they shouldn't transmit it to Tallahassee. Commissioner Dallari explained that when it
comes back, there are some things that he would like to have additional
information on. He stated he would like
to see information about the bridge and about the impact fees. He would also like to see some additional
information on architectural standards to make sure they understand what these
projects and buildings are going to look like.
Regarding these buildings being up as high as they are, they have never
done that in Seminole County and they need to be more diligent in trying to
actually see how that is going to work.
Commissioner Dallari pointed out that in Mr. Kantor's presentation he
talked about net zero. He stated that
net zero has to do with free internet and Mr. Kantor may have been referring to
net zero homes, which has to do with engineering and energy. He wants to make sure that the definitions
are more defined so there is no grayness in the details. They talked about the parking. When Mr. Kantor talked about commuting to
SunRail or LYNX, the Commissioner stated he would like to have more definition
as to what that is and the frequency.
Discussion ensued with regard to the deletion of the food truck. Commissioner
Dallari advised when he looked at the information provided regarding the land
use zoning area submittal, he noticed it is 800,000 square feet and when he
talked about the utilities, he gets about 340,000 square feet; so there are
some differences in the percentage of the areas. He would like that more defined. The Commissioner talked about the
single-family homes that will be on Ronald Reagan and East County Home Road and
the townhomes on Ronald Reagan and what their perspective will be of the buildings;
he wants to see that a little more defined.
Commissioner Dallari pointed out that in the overlay district they have
for the CRA, the higher up the building went, the bigger the setbacks
were. He remarked that this project is
actually reducing the setbacks compared to the overlay districts. He would like to understand more how this
live/work/play scenario is going to be working.
The Commissioner reiterated that he has no problem submitting this to
the State and believes there will be ample time to refine and work on the
issues Mr. Kantor is hearing today.
Commissioner Constantine stated this project is very starry-eyed,
future-looking, exciting stuff. He
pointed out they have seen much of this many times over the years going back to
the 80's. The Commissioner stated one
can only hope that this has the staying power to actually achieve the goals and
ambitions that are here. With regard to
ex parte communication, Commissioner Constantine stated he met with the
developer "way back when" and met with Mr. Kantor just recently. The Commissioner discussed his concerns with
the ongoing affordable housing, the bridge, and the transit situation. They are talking about, at best, this being
finished by 2032, which is 14 years in the future. He noted that he did not hear a word about
schools and child care. He believes if
they are going to have that type of density, they will really need to look at
that. He
understands the concept but is not sold on the parking. He, like the other Commissioners, is excited
about the potential but also leery about what they really need to do to make
this work. He is supportive of sending
it on to the DEO but that only means that it will come back to this Board to
make some determinations as they move forward to Phase I. He thinks there is a lot of discussion
between now and then that still has to take place between the County and the
Applicant.
Commissioner Carey discussed the 17-92 corridor and the master plan
for the government's property across the street from this project, which they
first started talking about in 2006. She
noted that it is not easy to do a project of this magnitude anywhere. She stated she looks at the Development Order
and the items that will be transmitted and sees what they negotiate today kind
of as the ground rules about how they are going to work on it. The market will drive this; and as they go
through and do a phase at a time, the market will really say how this is going
to look when it is all said and done.
How long it takes depends on the economy. When she looks at the Development Order, she
does not want to be in a situation where they are back after it has been
transmitted and the whole thing blows up because they did not talk about the
details; such as, how it is going to transition to Ronald Reagan, how they are
dealing with the transportation, what the super stop is, what really is being
proposed, and at what point in the plan that happens. Commissioner Carey stated when she looks at
this project she really sees all of Five Points, both sides of 17-92, really
being an energy creating source for the community. By the County moving their operations to Five
Points, that creates opportunity for the waterfront and for Sanford and a lot
of other opportunities.
Commissioner Carey remarked that the County needs to think big
too. With regard to having people in the
vicinity talking about how they accommodate the fire needs and what kind of
station is needed and how they would pay for it, she believes a project of this
magnitude deserves everyone to think outside of the box. Because of that, she is happy to support the
transmittal of this project with the revision to the Development Order that
they have before them on Item T, that that will be worked out before it comes
back for final approval. With regard to
some of these other items they have heard about today, they may want to put
something in just to clarify them as additions to the Development Order. Commissioner Dallari stated he loves the idea
they want to go to net zero but wondered how they will police that in the D.O. He would like to see if the County Manager
can do some research on that nationally to see how other groups of people have
actually detailed that in the D.O. and actually enforced net zero energy
consumption.
Chairman Horan stated he is thrilled about $2 billion of patient
private equity coming into the county.
The Chairman referred to the economic missions that he has gone on with
the Orlando Economic Partnership and talked about listening to site selectors. He explained the site selectors never want to
talk about the sunshine or good schools or trails and natural lands. They like to talk about the billions of
dollars of investment that the state and local governments are making into the
infrastructure. He discussed Seminole
County finally attracting the kind of private equity that he thought they
should have attracted in the past. He
believes Seminole County is one of the best kept secrets in the nation in terms
of quality of life. The Chairman then
reviewed the justification statement that was put forth by the Applicant and
stated he is excited about this project.
Motion by Commissioner Constantine, seconded by Commissioner Carey, to
transmit the proposed Ordinance enacting a Large Scale Future Land Use Map
Amendment from Planned Development to Planned Development to the State and
regional review agencies; transmit the associated Ordinance enacting a Rezone
from PD (Reagan Center Planned Development) to PD (Parkside Place Planned
Development); and transmit the associated Development Order and Master
Development Plan for approximately 110 acres, located on the north and south
sides of Ronald Reagan Boulevard, and east of County Home Road and U.S. Highway
17-92; as described in the proof of publication; Jon Walls, NAI Realvest,
Applicant.
Under discussion, Commissioner Carey questioned whether the
transmittal of the associated Development Order is as amended to the discussion
they had about Item T. Commissioner
Constantine stated the intent was for it to be the most recent Development
Order that they had. Commissioner Carey
advised that she does not know whether the County Engineer actually circulated
the revision or not. Commissioner
Dallari advised that he has not seen the revision. Commissioner Carey suggested the Development
Order be amended as discussed.
Commissioner Dallari stated they agreed that this is coming back to the
Board and there will be reviews to it.
Ms. Guillet stated they said that Item T would be discussed. Commissioner Carey stated the motion was to
transmit the associated Development Order.
She is trying to clarify that Item T is going to be amended before it
gets transmitted to say, “this item will come back for further discussion”
because right now it says that 100% of the cost is on the developer. Commissioner Constantine agreed that Item T
will be coming back as the Board discussed.
Commissioner Dallari added that many other
things that they discussed today will be coming back. Commissioner Carey clarified that those other
items are not in the Development Order and Item T is in the Development
Order. Commissioner Dallari acknowledged
that a lot of the things that he discussed are in the Development Order; such
as, standards, LYNX, and SunRail.
Commissioner Carey pointed out that Commissioner Dallari is asking about
the details of the Development Order.
The Development Order is a broad picture and all of that detail will
come back because it is already in as a broad detail. She stated she just wanted to make sure as
the seconder of the motion that that was the intent of the motion and her
second stands.
Chairman Horan clarified for the record
that the motion made is to transmit the Large Scale Future Land Use Amendment
Ordinance and also to transmit the associated Development Order. The Development Order will contain a
provision that says with regard to Item T, that item will be coming back; that
is the way the Development Order will read as amended. The Chairman asked if what he just stated is
correct and there was consensus that
it was correct.
Districts 1, 2, 3 and 5 voted AYE.
Commissioner Carey noted that just as a follow-up to the
“wordsmithing” of that, which she will leave to the attorneys, the Chairman
made some good points (that maybe it is not a pedestrian bridge) and suggested
that whatever is required will come back for discussion. Commissioner Constantine stated he thinks
they all know they are not going to finish and are not going to do all of the
details today. He believes everything is
up for discussion when it comes back again with comment. Chairman Horan reminded everyone that obviously
they are dealing with a project that has somewhere between an 8- to 14-year
lifespan; so the Development Order is going to be a living document and he
would presume there are all kinds of other things and vehicles that will be at
their disposal as they go vertical on this project.
DISTRICT REPORTS
District 3
Commissioner Constantine reported that the
Central Florida Sports Commission unveiled a new logo and marketing example and
he would like them to come and give the Board a presentation. He explained why the Florida Association of
Counties (FAC) suggested it was not worthwhile to spend the amount of money it
would cost to shift opinion regarding Amendment 1.
District 1
Commissioner Dallari announced they had the
kickoff for the PD&E for 434 from Winter Springs to Oviedo. He thanked staff for putting that together
and mentioned they had over 170 people attend, which was significant. The Commissioner stated he is looking forward
to the next round and seeing what the engineers come up with.
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Commissioner Dallari reminded everyone that
about a month ago he talked about Code Enforcement and the potential of having
discussions with the Board in 2019 regarding amnesty of Code Enforcement. He would like to have the County Attorney,
County staff, and the Planning Department look at that to see how that would
work and bring it back to the Board. At
the request of Chairman Horan, Commissioner Dallari explained that there are
quite a few homes with liens on them that are just sitting there and nothing is
being done. The eyesores are still
there. He thinks there should be some
program with some stipulations on how to get these homes fixed up and back in
compliance to try to assist people and encourage them to fix up their
homes. He talked about the total dollar
value of these homes being in the millions.
Discussion ensued.
Commissioner Carey suggested they could
look at the best practices of what other communities have done. Commissioner Dallari agreed that looking at
what other counties have done is a great idea.
Commissioner Carey suggested that Ms. Guillet put that question out to
her colleagues across the state through FAC and the League of Cities to see if
any of them have done anything. Ms.
Guillet added that there is also a Florida Association of Code
Enforcement. Chairman Horan stated that
even if they have to handle these things on a case-by-case basis, the County
should initiate some kind of program so they put properties back into a posture
where they are actually expanding the tax base and they are not just sitting
and continuing to depreciate.
District 5
Commissioner Carey thanked all of the staff
that participated or provided information for the Midway Town Hall meeting last
Thursday. She reported there was a good
turnout at the meeting; and for the next steps, she is requesting the Board’s
support for several things. The
stormwater basin study update is in the program already but is several years
out. Commissioner Carey asked the Board
to advance that study sooner versus later.
With all of the development coming around in the area, the study would
provide good data to make sure there are not unintended consequences. Secondly, after the discussion and after Mr.
Edwards indicated that sewer costs might be $15 million, when the question was
asked regarding who is interested in continuing this conversation, everybody
raised their hands. When asked who would
be willing to help bear the cost to look into this, everybody raised their
hands. She pointed out that it is easy
to agree to something if you don’t really know what the costs are.
Commissioner Carey advised that through the
County’s Joint Planning Agreement and their Utility Agreements, it would be the
City of Sanford who would have to provide this sewer service to the community;
and she requested Board support for staff to discuss with the City whether they
have capacity and whether they are willing to provide this service and extend
their service into Midway. She wants
them to get some real costs on estimates for distribution; such as, how much it
would cost an individual home to get re-plumbed, how much it would cost to hook
up to the meter, whether there are impact fees, and what their monthly cost
will be. Commissioner Carey advised that
once they have the numbers, then they can evaluate potential funding
sources. She does not think the
community would be opposed to participating in that through an MSBU or other
things. She explained that the final
step would be to present quality information to the citizens so they can make
an informed decision on whether to pursue or not pursue a sewer conversion
project for their community. She
emphasized that it would not be a fast project if the community decides to go
forward and it would take several years to provide the service. Commissioner Carey talked about Midway
becoming a PACE community where they could possibly get up to a $40,000 grant
that could be used to assist in repairing some of the septic tanks that may be
failing for the people who could income qualify for assistance for that.
Commissioner Carey noted that it will take
some staff time to put all of this together and requested the Board’s support
to direct staff to do those two things:
(1) advance the stormwater basin study; and (2) advance the investigation
of the cost for a sewer conversion in the community to be able to present that
back to the residents to see if they have interest in participating. Commissioner Dallari stated he would have no
issue or problem with supporting Commissioner Carey’s requests. He believes they should provide a timeline
for staff so Commissioner Carey can report back to the residents.
Commissioner Carey stated she has also
asked staff to look at lessons learned.
She pointed out there have been investments in other communities where
the connections were not made because there was no requirement for the
connections to be made and there was no MSBU or anything at all that would
trigger that. The infrastructure gets
put in and then people don’t connect because they didn’t know they were going
to have a $35 water bill every month.
She talked about why this needs to be a community-wide effort. Commissioner Carey stated if there are no
objections, she will take that as support from the Board. No
objections were voiced.
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Commissioner Carey gave a brief update
regarding some of the exciting things that are happening at the Orlando Sanford
International Airport. She talked about
several of Via Airline’s and Allegiant Airline’s current and new destinations.
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Commissioner Carey discussed an important
Youth Suicide Prevention program and training session that is coming up on
October 29 at the Health Department. She
believes this is a very important event that is coming up and hopes it will be
highlighted on the County’s website so they can try to get the word out.
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Commissioner Carey noted they are four
weeks away from Election Day. She was
disappointed to learn that in the primaries there were only two candidates that
actually pulled permits at the County for signs. The County does require that a candidate have
a permit for political signs.
Commissioner Carey emphasized that the County needs to put the
candidates on notice that they need a permit; that they need to pay their
deposit; and that signs are not allowed in the County right-of-way. She discussed the problems with the signs
being put in places where they are not allowed.
Commissioner Carey stated she intends to talk to the Supervisor of
Elections about this and also suggested they may need to have a discussion at
the next meeting about the libraries and who can be there and on what side of
the sidewalk. The public right-of-way is
the Commissioner’s concern right now because she has had people calling and
complaining. Commissioner Carey requested
that this be addressed through the Building and Permitting Department with the
candidates.
Chairman’s Report/District 2
Chairman Horan announced there needs to be
updated appointments to the MetroPlan Technical Advisory Committee. Motion
by Commissioner Dallari, seconded by Commissioner Carey, to appoint Jean Jreij,
Frank Consoli, and Bill Wharton as the primary representatives to the MetroPlan
Technical Advisory Committee and appoint Charles Wetzel, Anthony Nelson, and
Paul Ashworth as their respective alternates.
Districts 1, 2, 3, and 5 voted AYE.
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Chairman Horan reported that it has been
recommended to appoint Jeff Hopper to fill Matt Davidson’s unexpired term on
the Sanford Aviation Abatement Committee.
Commissioner Carey stated one of the biggest complaints that the Midway
community had was with the MB-80’s that Allegiant currently flies and how they
rev up at 4:00 in the morning before they can take off. By the end of November, all of those planes
should be out of the fleet and that should not be an issue anymore.
Motion
by Commissioner Dallari, seconded by Commissioner Carey, to appoint Jeff Hopper
to the Sanford Aviation Abatement Committee for an unexpired term which ends on
September 30, 2020.
Districts 1, 2, 3, and 5 voted AYE.
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Chairman Horan discussed the autism
screening that was done by Nemours at the Health Department and reported that
there were 85 cases that showed up. He
explained why he believes it is strong evidence of the public health
implications that the issue raises for local governments, especially the
schools. He suggested if the
Commissioners or any of their constituents have any thoughts or personal
experience with this issue, they can funnel them through Martha Santoni at
Nemours.
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Chairman Horan referred to the process of
looking at their own CoC and talked about how that has created some
confusion. The Chairman explained they
are putting together the process in accordance with the HUD regulations and
that is quite lengthy. He stated they
will be part of the regional CoC for the foreseeable future as they go through
the process.
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Chairman Horan advised that a lawsuit has
been filed by River Cross and he reminded the other Commissioners to avoid
contact with anybody with regards to the lawsuit. The Chairman stated he knows they have hired
special counsel and he thinks it would be good for each Commissioner to be
advised as to what kind of budget there is with regard to the defense of this
lawsuit. Ms. Porter-Carlton stated they
had their first meeting with outside counsel and she can brief each
Commissioner about that. She will be
co-counsel with the outside counsel on this suit.
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Chairman Horan reported that they are all
getting letters from hospital groups and organizations requesting letters of
support for Certificates of Need. He has
discussed this matter with the County Manager as to how to best handle these
types of situations. He explained why he
believes each Commissioner should make that decision individually. Commissioner Carey gave an example of two
hospitals in her district competing for the same Certificate of Need and she
wrote letters for both of them. She
thinks they will continue to see these as hospitals continue to expand
throughout the county. Chairman Horan
stated he thinks each one of the Commissioners has a different view and that is
why he thinks it is important that each individual Commissioner makes their own
decision.
COMMUNICATIONS AND/OR REPORTS
RECEIVED FROM CHAIRMAN’S OFFICE
There were no Communications and/or Reports
received from Chairman Horan’s Office.
ITEMS FOR FUTURE AGENDA
Dr. Nallan Chari, 1911 North Street,
addressed the Board to talk about a stormwater retention pond in his
backyard. Dr. Chari read a letter (copy
received and filed) into the record regarding the cleaning of the pond in his
backyard along with other ponds in the Rolling Hills Park area. He displayed an MSBU assessment map (copy
received and filed) and advised that his property is included in this MSBU. Ms. Guillet advised that the MSBU is intended
to provide for the remediation of the golf course, not any other purpose. It is not an MSBU for stormwater or
maintenance. Ms. Guillet indicated they
do have intentions that once the County acquires the golf course property, they
will start to look at generalized improvements in the entire Rolling Hills
area. They just recently closed on the
property and will have a public meeting at the end of the month to talk
specifically about potential improvements to the park. She added they can certainly address any
other plans for looking at both traffic issues as well as stormwater issues in
the area. Ms. Guillet emphasized that
the MSBU is not at all related to any stormwater issues.
Dr. Chari stated that all of the ponds in
this Rolling Hills Park are stormwater retention ponds because they are all
landlocked and the water goes nowhere.
He advised that the pond in his backyard is not really different. He talked about his problem with the County
not keeping the pond clean and thinks all of the residents who are paying into
the MSBU (including himself) would benefit from the County taking care of the
pond. He offered to donate the pond to
the park and suggested there could be a couple of benches around the pond. Chairman Horan stated they will continue to
look at this issue and try to come up with a solution that is in the best
interest of everyone involved. Dr. Chari
asked the Chairman if he had a timeline and he responded he did not.
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Chairman Horan discussed threats coming
from social media and how engaged the Sheriff’s Office has been. He talked about the security at the BCC
meetings.
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There being no further business to come
before the Board, the Chairman declared the meeting adjourned at 4:15 p.m.,
this same date.
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