BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS

SEMINOLE COUNTY, FLORIDA

SEPTEMBER 28, 2010

 

     The following is a non-verbatim transcript of the BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING OF SEMINOLE COUNTY, FLORIDA, held at 7:00 p.m., on Tuesday, September 28, 2010, in Room 1028 of the SEMINOLE COUNTY SERVICES BUILDING at SANFORD, FLORIDA, the usual place of meeting of said Board.

     Present:

     Chairman Bob Dallari (District 1)

     Vice Chairman Brenda Carey (District 5)

     Commissioner Mike McLean (District 2)

     Commissioner Dick Van Der Weide (District 3)

     Commissioner Carlton Henley (District 4)

     Acting County Manager Joe Forte

     County Attorney Robert McMillan

     Deputy Clerk Carylon Cohen

 

     Commissioner McLean gave the Invocation and led the Pledge of Allegiance.

PUBLIC HEARING

FINAL MILLAGE RATES

AND BUDGET FOR FY 2010/11

 

     Proof of publication, as shown on page _______, calling for a public hearing to consider adoption of the final Millage Rates and Budget for Fiscal Year 2010/11, received and filed.

     Chairman Dallari gave opening comments and reviewed the purpose of the second public hearing tonight is to hear public comments regarding the tentative millage rates and budget, amending the budget as desired by the Board, and adopting the final millage rates and County budget for Fiscal Year 2010/11.


     Lisa Spriggs, Fiscal Services Director, addressed the Board to state the budget is available to the public on the County’s web site, and the budget and this public hearing were advertised in the Orlando Sentinel.  She advised the Board has received modified Resolutions (copies received and filed) which were done due to legal review wording and format only; the numbers have not changed.  She gave a PowerPoint presentation (not received and filed) outlining the Budget Development Process.  She said within the Second Public Hearing Budget Proposal Book (copy received and filed), there are proposed adjustments totaling $19,739,139, which are detailed on pages 10 through 13.  She reviewed the Proposed Budget Summary, pages 7 through 9 of the Budget Proposal Book, and the total Countywide budget of $775,523,130.  She also reviewed the Appropriations by Activity; Appropriations by Classification; Millage Rate Summary, page 6 of the Budget Proposal Book; 2010 Change in Taxable Valuation; Millage Rate Summary; 2010 Change in Taxable Valuation – Countywide, Roads MSTU & Fire Services; and Property Tax Revenue.  Ms. Spriggs said it is estimated that the operating deficit for General Funds is between $8 and $10 million.

PROOF OF PUBLICATION

     Motion by Commissioner Van Der Weide, seconded by Commissioner McLean, to authorize filing the proof of publication for this meeting’s public hearing into the Official Record.

     Districts 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 voted AYE.

     No one spoke in support or in opposition to the tentative millage rates and budget.

     Commissioner McLean stated the Board talked a little on Sept. 15 and he brought up the idea of trying to come up with a way to recognize the plight a lot of the citizens are in economically and they talked about a millage decrease and he thinks that was a little too rich.  He wants to bring up another idea of looking at this as recognition of the challenges that the citizens are facing.  This proposal won’t change anybody’s life significantly, but will show that they as a Board “get it” and are responding to and recognizing the challenges.  He proposed moving from a 4.9 millage rate to 4.8795 which is about a half million dollars decrease.  He said this will not make a big difference other than to say the Board recognizes the challenges and is making that plain by moving the millage rate down slightly.

     Commissioner Carey asked what does 4.8795 represent in dollars.

     Ms. Spriggs stated that will be an additional reduction of about a half million dollars. 

     Commissioner Carey said she was thinking the Board is slightly increasing the trails debt in order to offset the bonds.  She asked if they offset the millage by that, what would that make the rate.

     Ms. Spriggs said if they were to reduce the Countywide millage by that increase, it would be 4.8751.  Chairman Dallari said that is about $600,000.

     Commissioner Carey said she thinks the public understands that the Board “gets it,” but a good-faith effort in trying to show that will go a long way.  It won’t go a long way in the pocket of the citizens.

     Commissioner Henley asked what does that mean in the pockets of the individuals.

     Ms. Spriggs said for an average home, that would be about a $3 reduction.

     Commissioner Henley said he thinks they have been addressing the economic conditions for quite some time, starting over two years ago.  He reminded the Board of the forecast at about 2013, when the County will be upside down, and said the decisions they are making now will impact what they have to work with in 2013.  He thinks it is great to have compassion and he would donate $3 if he thought it would help solve the problem, but the fact is it will not help.  He thinks they have to think beyond now and look at the next year and years after that.  They are dipping into the reserves now close to $10 million because of the shortfall and he doesn’t think it is good business to do that.  He will not support what Commissioner McLean proposed because of what they are facing in the next couple of years. 

     Motion by Commissioner McLean, seconded by Commissioner Carey, to adopt the FY 2010/11 General Countywide ad valorem tax rate of 4.8751 mills.

     Commissioner Van Der Weide stated he would not have trouble supporting that but he is aware this is window dressing; it shows intent and compassion.  When he looks at the economy, until people have jobs and the housing market improves, he questions how they will get out of this and how soon.

     Commissioner Carey said her thought process is in tying this down to the voted debt as an offset for this year.  Next year, they don’t have to do that for the next several years.  She thought that was just one way to show good faith.  She said there are a lot of citizens that are just hoping to hold onto their homes.  If they can’t, the situation will get worse and faster than anticipated.

     Commissioner McLean stated if they move in this direction, the total Countywide rate that is being paid out, including the debt service for natural lands, will be exactly the same.  They are taking the increase of .0249 and taking that out of the millage rate, and he thinks that is entirely appropriate, considering the challenges they have.  What an individual taxpayer will actually pay from a millage standpoint, not necessarily from the appraised value standpoint, will stay dead even.

     Chairman Dallari stated this is a small, modest amount and, because of the increase of debt service that they are looking at, he wouldn’t have a problem supporting it at this time.  He said that debt service will go away three years from now as well.

     Commissioner Henley asked about taking the money out of contingency versus anywhere else, and Commissioner Van Der Weide said that is about all they can do.

     Commissioner McLean repeated his motion and Commissioner Carey agreed to the motion.

     Commissioner Henley stated he will vote against the motion because he doesn’t think it will have any significant difference, and he doesn’t think it is a responsible way to deal with the budget. 

     Districts 1, 2, 3 and 5 voted.

     Commissioner Henley voted NAY.

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     Motion by Commissioner Carey, seconded by Commissioner McLean, to adopt the FY 2010/11 Fire MSTU ad valorem tax rate of 2.3299 mills.

     Districts 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 voted AYE.

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     Motion by Commissioner Carey, seconded by Commissioner McLean, to adopt the FY 2010/11 Unincorporated Road MSTU ad valorem tax rate of 0.1107 mills.

     Districts 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 voted AYE.

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     Motion by Commissioner Carey, seconded by Commissioner Van Der Weide, to adopt the FY 2010/11 Voted Debt Service ad valorem tax rate of 0.1700 mills.

     Districts 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 voted AYE.

     Ms. Spriggs read the established millage rates into the Record as follows:  BCC Countywide Millage, 4.8751 mills, a reduction of 9.95% from the rolled-back rate of 5.4136 mills; Countywide Voted Debt Service Millage, .17 mills; Fire/Rescue MSTU Millage, 2.3299 mills, a 9.14% decrease from the rolled-back rate of 2.5642 mills; Unincorporated Roads MSTU Millage, .1107 mills, 8.21% decrease from the rolled-back rate of .1206 mills.  She stated the proposed aggregate millage rate, exclusive of Voted Debt Service Millage, is 6.5116, which represents 10.35% decrease from the current year’s aggregate rolled-back rate of 7.2632 mills.

     Motion by Commissioner McLean, seconded by Commissioner Van Der Weide, to adopt the appropriate Millage Levy Resolution #2010-R-206, as shown on page _______, for FY 2010/11, inclusive of the millage rates announced; as described in the proof of publication.

     Districts 1, 2, 3, and 5 voted AYE.

     Commissioner Henley voted NAY.

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     Motion by Commissioner McLean, seconded by Commissioner Carey, to approve the budget adjustments to the FY 2010/11 Tentative Budget totaling $19,739,139.

     Districts 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 voted AYE.

     Ms. Spriggs gave modifications to the Budget Resolution that totals $774,914,521 that is inclusive of a tax reduction of $608,609, which represents a decrease in the Countywide millage rate.

     Motion by Commissioner McLean, seconded by Commissioner Van Der Weide, to adopt the appropriate Budget Resolution #2010-R-207, as shown on page _______, for FY 2010/11, amended as announced; as described in the proof of publication.

     Districts 1, 2, 3, and 5 voted AYE.

     Commissioner Henley voted NAY.

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     There being no further business to come before the Board, the Chairman declared the meeting adjourned at 7:27 p.m., this same date.

 

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